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Title: Autopilot Raymarine p70/Autohelm type 1
Post by: Enriquelo on November 06 2022, 12:42
Good morning, as my Raymarine p70 / Autohelm type 1 autopilot gave me problems when disassembling it I verified that what is damaged is the electric motor (Fracmo brand).
I am looking for spare parts for it but I can't find anything, does anyone have experience in this or know where I could find spare parts or a solution?

Thank you very much
Title: Re: Autopilot Raymarine p70/Autohelm type 1
Post by: Yngmar on November 06 2022, 13:04
Would be helpful if you told us what autopilot drive you have (manufacturer and model). The p70 is the head unit and Autohelm type 1 the course computer - they support many different drives though.
Title: Re: Autopilot Raymarine p70/Autohelm type 1
Post by: Enriquelo on November 06 2022, 19:46
Thank you very much for the answer, I can only find this reference, I don't know if it will help: FRACMO 361-55-0018
Title: Re: Autopilot Raymarine p70/Autohelm type 1
Post by: SYJetzt on November 07 2022, 06:48
Any photos?
Title: Re: Autopilot Raymarine p70/Autohelm type 1
Post by: Enriquelo on November 07 2022, 08:07
Hello SYJetzt, yes, here are some, I hope they serve you, thank you very much
Title: Re: Autopilot Raymarine p70/Autohelm type 1
Post by: Enriquelo on November 07 2022, 08:16


FRACMO

REF:361-55-0018
SER.nº: 00705/2714
A:3,6
VOLTS:10
HZ:DC
RPM:2250 N/L
o/p: 25 W
RTG: CONT
NAUTEC PT Nº. 3035-00??

Title: Re: Autopilot Raymarine p70/Autohelm type 1
Post by: SYJetzt on November 07 2022, 10:58
This type of motor seems to be an earlier type of motor.
Bavaria mainly fitted AP drives supplied by lewmar (usually in their Whitlock steering components). Examples of this AP motors you can see here https://www.sailtec.de/products-shop/categories/bavaria-spare-parts/ship-steering-propulsion-control-systems.html?isorc=56319 (https://www.sailtec.de/products-shop/categories/bavaria-spare-parts/ship-steering-propulsion-control-systems.html?isorc=56319)
Check your system, if  it is possible to use such a motor/gear combination
I would expect, you dismantled the motor from a gearbox/clutch assembly, which is left in the boat?
Are there any drive sprockets / steering cables or chains, in which this gear assembly is integrated? Photos?

I would see 3 possible solutions to go:
1) Replacement of the whole motor/gearbox/clutch assembly with a newer one, see link above.
2) Replacement with a linear drive , for example raymarine or similar makes
3) Take the existing motor to a repair shop for electric motors and ask if it can be repaired. Maybe there are only the brushes and/or the collector worn.

Good luck
Title: Re: Autopilot Raymarine p70/Autohelm type 1
Post by: symphony2 on November 07 2022, 11:05
Nautec is an earlier trading name of Raymarine. I think what you have is a Type 1 rotary drive. The Framco motor is just an industrial motor, but pretty sure you will be able to order a spare motor through a Raymarine dealer. Alternatively just google Framco motors and you will get industrial sippliers - I did it for the UK and got 3 or 4 potential suppliers - no doubt you will get local suppliers in Spain.
Title: Re: Autopilot Raymarine p70/Autohelm type 1
Post by: tiger79 on November 07 2022, 11:09
Fracmo is still in business, in Wales.  Why not get in touch with them direct?  Their contact details are here - https://bangor.cylex-uk.co.uk/company/fracmo-19332559.html
Title: Re: Autopilot Raymarine p70/Autohelm type 1
Post by: Enriquelo on November 07 2022, 11:11
Thanks, here is the rest of the autopilot. Please ignore the audio since it is the video that I sent to my friend who knows electronics in case he could advise me
Title: Re: Autopilot Raymarine p70/Autohelm type 1
Post by: Yngmar on November 07 2022, 17:42
So it's a Raymarine type 1 linear drive, why not just say so  ;D

Spare motors are available, for example here: https://hudsonmarine.co.uk/products/raymarine-type-1-linear-drive-motor-n001

The motor may also be repairable, usually it's either brushes (replacable, and you can find Fracmo brushes for a few quid online), windings or sometimes bearings.
Title: Re: Autopilot Raymarine p70/Autohelm type 1
Post by: Enriquelo on November 07 2022, 19:07
As always, it is a pleasure to be a user of this forum. thank you all very much for the kind information.